Farm Video Debate

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Updated: 3/29/2011 7:11 pm
THORNTON,IA-Legislation currently making its way through the Iowa Senate would put an end to videotaping or taking pictures of farming operations without consent.

It would also make it illegal to seek employment on a farm just to go undercover.

Area farmers say this is something that has been needed for many years, but some animal rights activists worry it will make it too easy for farmers abusing the animals to hide behind closed doors.    

Animal Rights Activist Sybil Soukup says, "I feel like this bill protects large factory farms and puppy mills by making undercover animal investigations in animal care illegal."

These images were shot by someone working undercover for PETA.

The bill making this illegal has already passed the House and is now in the Senate.

There are mixed opinions about the legislation.

Hog Farmer Douglas Caffrey says, "we need that law to protect us from this, but we also need to be very conscious that we protect ourselves by taking the absolute best care of our animals that we can."

Caffrey say he understands that people want to know what is going on.

But he says the way some people have been going about it is wrong.

Caffery says, "I guess it’s kind of just the way to handle it by the law and take care of it that way rather than trying to get all the public opinion against us on this."

Soukup says, "we have a right to know what's going on with animal welfare in the state of Iowa and what's happening behind those closed doors."

Soukup say sometimes these undercover investigations are  the only way to expose  wrongdoing.

She says those abiding by the rules have nothing to worry about.

Soukup says, "I think the groups that are going out there and targeting with undercover investigations know that there is neglect and abuse going on inside the walls of these barns and these factory farms."

Supporters of the legislation say the video is often staged, which makes the situation even worse.

There is also a concern about people trespassing to get pictures and video.

They can spread disease to the livestock.

Trespassing laws already prohibit this, but supporters of the new legislation say it would send an even stronger message to folks about going after these farms in the wrong way.

If the bill passes it would be considered a felony to do these investigations.

Violators could face fines and jail time.

The Department of Agriculture is in charge of looking into any animal abuse cases.

 

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flybynight - 4/9/2011 12:49 AM
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Can't edit previous comment... This law covers not only factory farms (which is what sidethorn and others appear to be defending) but also puppy mills, private barns, and anyone who raises a couple of cows in their backyard. Many, MANY cases of animal abuse happen outside of the big farms that PETA goes after. This law would make it impossible to document them, too. Frequently animal control will not act until photographs become public and shame them into taking action. It's quite common. This law would mean the abusers get away free. Is this really a fair trade for stopping a few (possible) PETA publicity stunts? Not in my world.

flybynight - 4/9/2011 12:44 AM
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This bill would make it a felony to take a photograph or video of a farm. Regardless of whether it was taken from public property, showed any abusive behavior, or was in any way misrepresented to make the farm look bad. Sidethorn said "Simply put, if the undercover reporting is truthful and can be proven as such, then there is no worry. No problem, as it should be reported." No, this law would make taking a photograph or video highly illegal, and therefore inadmissible in court, no matter what it shows. There is no exception in the bill for documenting actual cruelty. There is no exception for tourists who want to capture a particularly idyllic scene from the highway, for crying out loud. Let's make laws that actually cover the problem situations, not ridiculously broad ones that will make reporting *actual* abuse impossible.

LindaL - 4/8/2011 7:10 PM
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Billy Joe Gregg, Jr. plead to six counts of cruelty to animals for stomping on that newborn calf, beating cows with metal bars and breaking their tails. He bragged on that video about beating a cow's head until it was hugely swollen. It didn't happen all in one day. What a shame that such a video brought disgrace on this farm. Perfection is hard to achieve. Most places are average. If Gary Conklin's farm is an example of a "perfectly well-run farm," I'd hate to see what's happening at the rest of the "perfectly well-run" farms in Iowa, much less the average ones.

sidethorn - 4/1/2011 4:49 PM
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Violation of free speech and press to make FALSE allegations? Try asking D. Christensen of S.D., H. Pang of HI, A. Harrington of IND., about staged incidences. They are a mere drop in the bucket of staged scenes to "prove" "abuse, cruelty, and neglect." That is one of the things this bill addresses. It's about FALSE reporting. Why are those that are against this bill having such a problem with it? Is it because they know that many of their undercover reports are actually false, some many years old, stockphotos and footage used and interspersed with footage from the alleged perpetrator? (Bill Smith's film on the Oprah show would be a good example). So, for those of you loudly protesting this bill are you, in reality, in favor of promoting lies, half truths? Certainly sounds that way. Simply put, if the undercover reporting is truthful and can be proven as such, then there is no worry. No problem, as it should be reported. But, if it is, as has been in the past, many times proven out to be staged, lies, then that is where the problem lies. Is that why you doth protest too much? You're now afraid that there will be real consequences to be paid and you won't be able to prey on the public's lack of knowledge of real animal husbandry, but instead use the emotion card? Sure seems like it.

beaelliott - 3/30/2011 10:57 AM
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This is a violation of free speech and freedom of press. This bill seeks to hide cruelty to farmed animals, rather than end it. I believe those responsible for the inhumane treatment of animals should not be given a free pass to continue their abuses behind closed doors. Rather than concealing cruelty and punishing those who expose it in factory farms and slaughterhouses, we should address inhumane conditions brought to light by strengthening Iowa's animal cruelty laws. The meat/dairy/egg industries depend on consumer ignorance in order to continue producing "cheap" goods without knowledge of ethical consequences. It's dreadful how most people still have the image of "Old MacDonald's farm" in their heads. They have no idea of the way these living beings are treated as they make their way to the grocery freezers. Knowledge is power... Every one who "votes" with their dollars has a right to know the truth. Laws like this only protect the guilty and restrict First Amendment Rights.

onafixedincome - 3/30/2011 4:18 AM
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No, as a matter of fact, you DON'T have the right to intrude on any people or businesses' privacy. If you choose to shop with those who allow the world in, great...but to deliberately deceive an employer with the aim of proving a wrong--sorry, folks, you're no better than Peeping Toms and illegal wiretappers. You're way out of line. Care to try this approach with weapons manufacturers, politician's families, or human hospitals and schools? I would bet you wouldn't get very far with that argument of yours! How many of these 'undercover' efforts come up empty? I bet none, because **anyone** can walk into any situation and find fault with it if they try hard enough. Especially if you are not a member of the industry with a reasonable and full understanding of normal practices. Animals aren't treated like human children--get over it. Agriculture can be distasteful and incomprehensible, but that does not make it wrong or inhumane. Pigs and poultry in particular are subject to biological contamination and can share some nasty diseases with man--would you want Typhoid Mary walking in your house? Neither do the farmers in their role as guardians of the food supply. So if you wish to object to farming methods, do it with your wallet, not by fraud and deception.

freedomfighter - 3/29/2011 9:53 PM
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Here is a case that shows exactly why this law is needed. This farm had to pay a lot of money on lawyers, etc. to defend itself in court on many charges, only to be found not guilty! How fair is that?? In fact the evidence from trial shows that their operations were above average! http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/investigations_find_no_animal.html The scum undercover Vegan/Humaniac should have been sent to jail.

freedomfighter - 3/29/2011 9:49 PM
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http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/03/investigations_find_no_animal.html Here you go, proof that undercover Vegan/Humaniacs cause trouble for perfectly well run farms. This farm had to pay a ton of money to hire lawyers and endure the stress of a court case with all it's stress because of the undercover video taken by a person who allowed animal abuse to occur and actually encourged the abuse. This is WRONG. This farm had to pay to prove it was a good operation. The person that shot this video should have been charged and sent to jail.

mlahay - 3/29/2011 7:50 PM
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I want to correct/argue one important comment in this story; there is a rumor circulating that "animal rights activists" go into facilities and stage cruelty so that it can be videotaped and used against the facility owner. We have asked for proof of such an absurd allegation and have received no response. There is no evidence to support the statement. It is irresponsible to repeat information that has not been substantiated. Please retract the statement during your next newscast. Mary LaHay, Iowa Voters for Companion Animals
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